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Ummm, it’s about both

August 10, 2001 by Michael Boyle

. The Talking Moose waded out of the mud and into the fire with his piece yesterday. It’s the most ridiculous thing the Moose, who has otherwise been a very interesting read, has ever published.

The poor Moose clearly doesn’t understand what web designers, as opposed to code monkeys or integrators, do for a living. He seems to think they need or want to code every page or something inane like that. On personal sites that may be true, but that’s just for fun.

You can’t do content management properly – or even do it at all – without a damn good designer figuring out how to make it look, and with a damn good coder to make that design work with the content management system, and without a damn good architect to make sure that it fits together well through time.

I’m just old school enough to think that all of those roles – designer, coder, and architect – are best done by a single person. But none of those interests are antithetical to using a content management system to actually make it all happen on a day-to-day basis. In fact, a CMS can’t be implemented efficiently unless those folks do good work first – otherwise, the benefit of the CMS is lost in a miasma of snippets and included code and exception-fixing.

Of course the irony is that the Talking Moose site itself is a good example of this fact. Bryan Bell couldn’t have casually changed the design of the Moose had his code (made up of HTML and CSS) not been clean and useful to begin with. Likewise, had Dave and the gang at Userland not built a weblog architecture whose function enabled the weblog form (with the calendar-based navigation etc.), Bell’s work would have been useless. And the “design” (defined strictly) would be a secondary concern had both of those things not been done well for the task at hand.

It’s absolutely about design and the kind of work people like Zeldman do and it’s all about integrating content management systems as closely as possible to the writers and other “content people” who are doing the publishing. There’s no fight here, though the Moose seems to have wanted to stir one up.

Tags: Architecture, Bell, Blogging, CMS, CSS, Design, EFF, GNE, Personal, Publishing, Web, Web Design, Writers, Zeldman

More truth-telling

June 10, 2001 by Michael Boyle

from Mr. Zeldman in The End of the World As We Know It: “The Web is not in trouble. Big businesses are, when they think they can own or master it.
Bye-bye, Big Content. Adieu, global agencies. Thanks for stopping by. Now step away, and let those whove always understood this medium take it where it needs to.”

Tags: Business, Web, Zeldman

Zeldman

June 7, 2001 by Michael Boyle

Zeldman you fucker. It’s an excellent, and accurate, fan letter. [via consolationchamps, a writer of which I’ve been meaning to email for a while now]

Tags: Email, Zeldman

I learn nice things

May 17, 2001 by Michael Boyle

via Zeldman’s site quite often. But today was the topper – the WWW turned 10 today.

Tags: Zeldman

Via Zeldman

April 12, 2001 by Michael Boyle

Via Zeldman I came across a wonderful little tutorial about website production. It’s very good, although it does diverge somewhat from my usual path. The divergence mostly has to do with the fact that I generally have started on projects prior to the point where the article picks things up. For large projects, much of the early “production” work – the content definition and sourcing, preliminary architecture issues, and basic site organization comes in the proposal phase, when the goal is to do as much as you can to keep the whole thing as a mental, and flowcharted, model – because if nothing has been signed, you want to keep expenses down. More or less.

Tags: Architecture, GNE, Projects, Web, Zeldman

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