even venturing into this fray, but my thoughts following the latest re: winerlog and editthispage (aka Dave Winer) donnybrook go along two lines. First, just like you can’t be “partly” a virgin, you’re either a blank, common-carrier style host or you’re not. No one, not Conexion, Mr Winer, or anyone else, can have it both ways. Second, Mr Winer seems to think this is new, unexplored territory. It’s not. Places like The Well, Café Utne and Caucus have been dealing with these issues for years. Norms have been developed. And that’s not to mention the norms and standards that surround the ISP industry. I don’t see how hosting through a webapp like Manila is any different than the issues raised in these far more mature communities.